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		<title>Friends for free</title>
		<link>http://clientsfromhell.wordpress.com/2011/12/18/friends-for-free/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2011 20:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So this stranger chick sends me a Facebook message saying she loves my work and wants me to shoot her wedding. So I say thanks and send her the initial rate list. She freaks. She actually writes to me saying, &#8220;Oh but would you pretty please consider shooting it for me for free?&#8221; Bitch. No [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=clientsfromhell.wordpress.com&amp;blog=325542&amp;post=61&amp;subd=clientsfromhell&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So this stranger chick sends me a Facebook message saying she loves my work and wants me to shoot her wedding.</p>
<p>So I say thanks and send her the initial rate list.</p>
<p>She freaks.</p>
<p>She actually writes to me saying, &#8220;Oh but would you pretty please consider shooting it for me for free?&#8221;</p>
<p>Bitch. No wait. Bitches are usually smart. This one&#8217;s just a stupid cow.</p>
<p>But that&#8217;s not all. She then proceeds to call up one of my mates &#8211; a close friend &#8211; she&#8217;s acquainted with him. And she says to him, &#8220;Oh but please can you speak to them and ask them to do it for free for me as a favor to you?&#8221;</p>
<p>Holy cow indeed.<br />
Of course, my mate&#8217;s in a similar profession so he laughs in her face on the call and wishes her all the best.</p>
<p>Much education is required.</p>
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		<title>&#8230;very liberal thoughts&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://clientsfromhell.wordpress.com/2011/11/30/very-liberal-thoughts/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2011 09:42:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;We both have very liberal thoughts&#8230;.&#8221; But you obviously don&#8217;t have any professionalism / courtesy to reply to a fucking email or return a call or reply to my text message. Disclaimer : I&#8217;m so glad I have this space to rant and bitch. In my work life, I prefer to deal with painful transactions [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=clientsfromhell.wordpress.com&amp;blog=325542&amp;post=59&amp;subd=clientsfromhell&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We both have very liberal thoughts&#8230;.&#8221;<br />
But you obviously don&#8217;t have any professionalism / courtesy to reply to a fucking email or return a call or reply to my text message.</p>
<p>Disclaimer : I&#8217;m so glad I have this space to rant and bitch. In my work life, I prefer to deal with painful transactions and convert them to paying clients.</p>
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		<title>The light is artificial</title>
		<link>http://clientsfromhell.wordpress.com/2011/11/29/the-light-is-artificial/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2011 11:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ranting about idiots who don&#8217;t know what they&#8217;re talking but they do have a mouth so they have to use it say something no matter what it is. DIE FUCKERS DIE! &#8220;Oh, it&#8217;s a nice shot but you know, the light from the back is looking artificial.&#8221; What the fuck were you expecting dipshit &#8211; [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=clientsfromhell.wordpress.com&amp;blog=325542&amp;post=57&amp;subd=clientsfromhell&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ranting about idiots who don&#8217;t know what they&#8217;re talking but they do have a mouth so they have to use it say something no matter what it is.</p>
<p>DIE FUCKERS DIE!</p>
<p>&#8220;Oh, it&#8217;s a nice shot but you know, the light from the back is looking artificial.&#8221;</p>
<p>What the fuck were you expecting dipshit &#8211; it&#8217;s a client commissioned fashion shoot &#8211; there are tons of artificial lights. </p>
<p>Oh wait, you&#8217;re not from the client&#8217;s side, you&#8217;re not a friend of mine, you aren&#8217;t even a photographer and you certainly know nothing about lighting. Fucking asshole.</p>
<p>Go hide in your hole some place.</p>
<p>And I can&#8217;t even call him out publicly. Have to be all polite and &#8220;Oh thanks for the compliment but what do you mean about the light?&#8221;  AND I have to add a fucking smiley to boot.</p>
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		<title>Fine art of negotiation</title>
		<link>http://clientsfromhell.wordpress.com/2011/11/24/fine-art-of-negotiation/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2011 09:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;But I can&#8217;t accept your pricing as-is. You have to reduce a little at least. Just for the sake of negotiation.&#8221; It&#8217;s client&#8217;s like these that make me want to commit homicide at least once a week. I can&#8217;t inflate my pricing just for idiots like these because that would be unfair to my other [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=clientsfromhell.wordpress.com&amp;blog=325542&amp;post=54&amp;subd=clientsfromhell&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But I can&#8217;t accept your pricing as-is. You have to reduce a little at least. Just for the sake of negotiation.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s client&#8217;s like these that make me want to commit homicide at least once a week.<br />
I can&#8217;t inflate my pricing just for idiots like these because that would be unfair to my other clients and if I don&#8217;t inflate, I am forced to reduce a little just for the sake of this idiocy. </p>
<p>Most of these requests are made by people who are not in charge of the payments &#8211; and are not the final decision makers. The manager who has been asked by the COO to find a designer or a bride whose Dad is footing the bill for her wedding.</p>
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		<title>That&#8217;s too expensive, no one charges so much</title>
		<link>http://clientsfromhell.wordpress.com/2011/11/17/thats-too-expensive-no-one-charges-so-much/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 12:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Huh. Really? You know my industry better than I do? And why would you open your call to me introducing yourself like this : &#8220;I wanted to know more about your services, I am also a journalist with so-and-so-newspaper.&#8221; &#8220;But this is not a special wedding or anything. Not an industrialist&#8217;s wedding you know. Just [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=clientsfromhell.wordpress.com&amp;blog=325542&amp;post=51&amp;subd=clientsfromhell&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huh. Really? You know my industry better than I do?</p>
<p>And why would you open your call to me introducing yourself like this : &#8220;I wanted to know more about your services, I am also a journalist with so-and-so-newspaper.&#8221; </p>
<p>&#8220;But this is not a special wedding or anything. Not an industrialist&#8217;s wedding you know. Just a normal wedding. No one charges this much.&#8221;</p>
<p>Pause.</p>
<p>&#8220;I saw your website a few days ago, I&#8217;m not sure what I saw. You are one of those special photographers right?&#8221; [ Referring to candid wedding photography. ]</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re fishing for pricing, make it clear. I don&#8217;t have a problem sharing my pricing. But please understand that I am not delusional when I&#8217;m sharing my pricing. I DO charge that much. Negotiating without knowing what you&#8217;re negotiating for is the first signal that I don&#8217;t want to work with you.</p>
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		<title>Limo</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 11:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;You must see our engagement photographs! Here&#8217;s a link to our website.&#8221; First image : Limo hired to drive couple to party with friends after lady accepted proposal. Second image : image fat diamond solitaire ring on lady&#8217;s finger. Me thinking : Er, you hired a Limo and don&#8217;t have the money to pay for [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=clientsfromhell.wordpress.com&amp;blog=325542&amp;post=49&amp;subd=clientsfromhell&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You must see our engagement photographs! Here&#8217;s a link to our website.&#8221;</p>
<p>First image : Limo hired to drive couple to party with friends after lady accepted proposal.<br />
Second image : image fat diamond solitaire ring on lady&#8217;s finger.</p>
<p>Me thinking : Er, you hired a Limo and don&#8217;t have the money to pay for a professional wedding photographer to capture your wedding? And you&#8217;re sending me a link to your engagement photos that the other wedding photographer shot and 90% of those images are not even in focus?</p>
<p>If it isn&#8217;t important enough for your to have it captured, why bother and waste my time?</p>
<p>Idiot.</p>
<p>Congratulations on your wedding though!</p>
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		<title>Calling</title>
		<link>http://clientsfromhell.wordpress.com/2011/11/17/calling/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 11:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>clientsfromhell</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Calling to find out how I work and how much I charge? You call anytime you like, that is convenient to you. You don&#8217;t have the courtesy to ask, &#8220;Is this a good time to talk?&#8221; I speak with you, explaining all the nuances of a typical assignment and educate you and equip you to [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=clientsfromhell.wordpress.com&amp;blog=325542&amp;post=47&amp;subd=clientsfromhell&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Calling to find out how I work and how much I charge? You call anytime you like, that is convenient to you. You don&#8217;t have the courtesy to ask, &#8220;Is this a good time to talk?&#8221;<br />
I speak with you, explaining all the nuances of a typical assignment and educate you and equip you to deal with any other professionals you might be speaking with. I spend 30 minutes on the phone with you and when you hire someone else, you don&#8217;t even have the professionalism to give me a fucking call and tell me you&#8217;re not hiring me?</p>
<p>The excuse of, &#8220;Oh but it doesn&#8217;t feel nice to tell someone I&#8217;m not hiring them.&#8221; is lame and silly. You&#8217;re not five years old. Learn how to deal with rejection because that is the only reason you can&#8217;t deal with informing someone else about their rejection. Morons.</p>
<p>And no, it is NOT cool to reject someone&#8217;s services over a phone text. Have the balls to call them up. Because if you don&#8217;t call, I will and then you&#8217;ll feel even worse.</p>
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		<title>Brief. Like my briefs. Full of balls.</title>
		<link>http://clientsfromhell.wordpress.com/2011/09/05/brief-like-my-briefs-full-of-balls/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2011 19:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why wouldn&#8217;t you want to spend a few hours filling in the creative brief, even though the brand designer has taken the pain to formulate the questions for you? Because I&#8217;m paying for it already. You answer the questions. But asshole, you&#8217;re paying for designing the logo, not for life lessons on what your brands [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=clientsfromhell.wordpress.com&amp;blog=325542&amp;post=45&amp;subd=clientsfromhell&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why wouldn&#8217;t you want to spend a few hours filling in the creative brief, even though the brand designer has taken the pain to formulate the questions for you?</p>
<p>Because I&#8217;m paying for it already. You answer the questions.</p>
<p>But asshole, you&#8217;re paying for designing the logo, not for life lessons on what your brands does&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Gimme a deal, boy.</title>
		<link>http://clientsfromhell.wordpress.com/2011/08/17/gimme-a-deal-boy/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2011 13:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Uh. I&#8217;ll throw in my ass for free too. You&#8217;re a close friend&#8217;s third cousin with a new baby in the house. You&#8217;ve met me once. Now you want me to make pictures of your baby. I tell you I&#8217;ll give you family rates, well, because you are, technically family. And you tell me you [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=clientsfromhell.wordpress.com&amp;blog=325542&amp;post=43&amp;subd=clientsfromhell&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh. I&#8217;ll throw in my ass for free too.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re a close friend&#8217;s third cousin with a new baby in the house. You&#8217;ve met me once.<br />
Now you want me to make pictures of your baby.<br />
I tell you I&#8217;ll give you family rates, well, because you are, technically family.<br />
And you tell me you want a further deal.</p>
<p>Are you like retarded?<br />
Didn&#8217;t I just GIVE you a deal?<br />
And then when I turn them down they get pissed.</p>
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		<title>Why read the contract?</title>
		<link>http://clientsfromhell.wordpress.com/2011/05/06/why-read-the-contract/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2011 09:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Always the same excuse : that there&#8217;s too much work to allow time for blogging. Truth is, sometimes I just don&#8217;t give a fuck. Bad clients will always be present and sometimes, just sometimes, dissing them over beer isn&#8217;t as satisfying as turning down the engagement and telling them to fuck off. With their money. [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=clientsfromhell.wordpress.com&amp;blog=325542&amp;post=41&amp;subd=clientsfromhell&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Always the same excuse : that there&#8217;s too much work to allow time for blogging. Truth is, sometimes I just don&#8217;t give a fuck. Bad clients will always be present and sometimes, just sometimes, dissing them over beer isn&#8217;t as satisfying as turning down the engagement and telling them to fuck off. With their money. Done that a couple of times and nothing more satisfying. Might not be the best practical solution, but heck, feels good.</p>
<p>The latest is the client who didn&#8217;t read the contract. And signed it. And then argued with me. And got what they deserved. What kind of a person, running a multi-national business, does not read a piece of paper they are signing? A legal piece of paper. Everything was spelled out correctly and the way it is with all my business contracts. Maybe I should have put in some other stuff and charged some extra. In the future, maybe I will include a charge for &#8220;not reading the contract&#8221;. Halfway through the engagement, they told me they didn&#8217;t like what they were seeing &#8211; after all the iterations and phases had been exhausted. The contract mentioned a certain number of iterations and phases and that extras will be charged. They had the gall to then tell me that I hadn&#8217;t told them / informed them and that they would not &#8220;condone such behavior&#8221;. Like WTF! Seriously?</p>
<p>Of course, the contract they had signed had clearly mentioned all specifics so they couldn&#8217;t do anything about the &#8220;condone&#8221; bit. In exchange, I also wrote a stinker with the &#8220;condone&#8221; bit from my side. Well and truly pissed. How are such people in business? Oh wait, they were &#8220;outsroucing for our client&#8221; so they could obviously spend the client&#8217;s money without reading the contract.</p>
<p>Ah. More later. The thing I tell myself is that the lesser bad clients I have, the lesser I write here, which works both ways!</p>
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